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María del Carmen Valdivieso's avatar

Thank you for your writing and for recommending the documentary, Jonathan. After yesterday's Zoom session, I found myself reflecting on the significance of the word "we". Despite its frequent use in my work for a non-profit organization, I never fully feel it. Even when I write it, there are moments when it seems to carry a sense of isolation.

The concept of "we" is something I rarely grasp entirely. Perhaps it's due to the current tumultuous state of the world and my country. However, during yesterday's session and again in my “contemporary” dance class, I experienced a profound connection to this collective individuation you mentioned. Maybe.

Although I'm not particularly fond of sports, treks, or yoga, attending these classes with strangers since the pandemic has allowed me to experience the essence of "we" in a beautiful and strange way. I haven’t become friends with any of the people I have been in the class, neither I found the need to become one because it is strange way, I felt connected to them and I was just enjoying the moment so beautifully (I guess, like a similar feeling when I’m part of a Dharma sharing in a Sangha).

Yesterday's session, coupled with the insights from Perspectiva, provided me with a renewed perspective on this collective consciousness, perhaps what you referred to as "collective individuation" (I think this is how you called it? Sorry if I’m confusing the words).

To truly understand this concept, I believe I must first feel a sense of freedom, followed by vulnerability, and eventually a sense of belonging. This process may have been what allowed me to perceive the "we" more consciously.

As I pen these thoughts, I'm aware that they might come across as somewhat idealistic. However, I'm convinced that just as my thoughts evolve, so too does my physical being. Perhaps we often overanalyze the concept of "we", and perhaps we only seek to acknowledge it when it becomes necessary.

I'm writing these words without overthinking, embracing the opportunity for open expression.

Today, I took a break to watch the documentary, and it exceeded my expectations, particularly towards the end with Dylan's active involvement. Hermoso.

I wonder if incorporating activities like singing, dancing, and painting into future sessions could provide a holistic approach to exploring the concept of "we".

Combining these forms of expression with dialogue and introspection might offer a deeper understanding of our collective identity.

Thank you once again for your insightful writing, Jonathan. Your contributions greatly enrich my work.

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Jake Hoban's avatar

Thanks for this thought-provoking piece and equally stimulating discussion today. It only struck me afterwards that there is a very McGilchristian way of framing this. The abstract "we" that either doesn't say what it means or resorts to generalities like "we the people/workers/faithful etc" is a left hemisphere artefact. It's either deliberately instrumentalising and manipulating its audience, or it's just deluded (a lone scribe on the internet proclaiming what needs to happen for the world to change, without the agency to make it happen). Real agency requires understanding who, specifically, is going to do whatever it is. Seeing people specifically rather than in categories is what the right hemisphere does because it has access to embodied experience and relationality, which is always between real flesh and blood people rather than abstractions. Your piece has prompted me to take more care to avoid the trap of talking loosely about what "we" should do, and be as clear as I can about whom exactly I'm thinking of.

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